Cure for What Ails Ya
Whilst checking on the other members of the HCBA blogroll, I came across Greg's (mis)adventures with Windows upgrade paths.
I have a one word solution that'll probably get me kicked off the blogroll as an apostate:
Macintosh.
You'll be glad you did. Aaaaand, as a matter of fact, although I just say it as coincidence (trust me! --L.), the husband and I have a G4 eMac up for sale. We're only selling it because he recently got a new G5 iMac.
It runs OS X. The Linux kernel makes it cool!
and the crickets go wild...
Well, I tried.
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But the games I wanna play don't ever come out for the Mac. Ok, that's not entirely true, but if I don't want to wait two extra years... (besides, there are certain people who completely put me off ever wanting to own a mac. I think you know who I mean...)
posted by
ethne at April 5, 2005 07:58 PM
Oh yeah, them. I understand. It just...it's just...you gotta try it!
I did fail to take the gaming situation into account, seeing as how I'm only a tabletop gamer grrl. :(
I should also admit that whereas the Hubby's cave is pure Mac, I'm still locked into the PC platform. We could afford only one Mac this year, so whereas I gaze upon the Apple Powerbooks with the sort of longing usually reserved for pulp romance novels, I must spend another few years in Windoze purgatory.
But he lets me play on his Macs, so it's all right! :)
posted by
Linda at April 5, 2005 08:15 PM
Ethne...how can they put you off owning a Mac? That's like saying you'll never own a Jeep, or Saturn...or whatever because some stupid cow drives one. But I understand ont he game front. That's why I just have a PS2 and, gods forgive me...an xbox
posted by
Shawn at April 5, 2005 09:23 PM
It is entirely possible that I would be put off Saturns if some cow drove one than proceeded to tell everyone how said cow is morally superior in all things, if you get my meaning. As for the XBox... the gods may forgive you... I'm just not sure (sniff sob sniff) if I can (sniff sob). Unless of course you played Thief: Deadly Shadows and said it blew because of the Xbox implementation... then I would forgive you completely. (hee hee hee)
posted by
ethne at April 5, 2005 09:41 PM
I say, "it blew because of the Xbox implementation... "
posted by
Shawn at April 5, 2005 09:47 PM
I occasionally "play" with Macs at work, but for real work I use XP/2000. For all the bragging that Mac owners do about how easy they are to use, I think the UI is pretty crappy (IMHO). I just wish Linux was ready for the desktop. I'd be there yesterday.
posted by
Greg at April 5, 2005 09:50 PM
You will be assimilated, Greg. ;)
posted by
Linda at April 5, 2005 09:55 PM
What version of mac os are you 'playing with' at work? Yeah, the older ones had their problems, but beyond 10.2, things are much more streamlined. Especially compared to the ten-year-old UI that Microsoft users cling to like a well worn, small pox infected, blanket. But to each his/her own.
posted by
Shawn at April 5, 2005 09:59 PM
Admittedly, they are old iMacs running 10.something. It's got pretty widgets, but it's hard to make it do what I need it to do. Therefore, we only use it as another testing platform.
posted by
Greg at April 5, 2005 10:02 PM
What do you need it to do? Crash, BSOD, Catch a virus or worm? Admitedly you will need a PC emulator to get a Mac to do that.
posted by
Shawn at April 5, 2005 10:05 PM
Cool! I have the age-old Mac vs PC debate on my very own blog! Whee!!!
[grabs popcorn and sits back to watch]
posted by
Linda at April 5, 2005 10:55 PM
Oh -- just so we know each other:
Greg, Shawn is my husband, who keeps his own non-political blog at silatrell.net.
Shawn, Greg is a member of the High Country Blogger's Alliance, who keeps catscape.com.
Let the debate begin!
Popcorn with M&M's, Ethne?
posted by
Linda at April 5, 2005 10:59 PM
I'll pass on the popcorn, but hey, get some snowcaps and I am so very there. :)
posted by
ethne at April 6, 2005 03:43 PM
[adds snowcaps to the shopping list]
:)
posted by
Linda at April 6, 2005 03:46 PM
swwwwwwwweeeeeeeetttttttttt!!!
posted by
ethne at April 6, 2005 07:15 PM
Hmmm... if you are looking for fireworks, I might just disappoint ;)
Macs are fine, if that's what you want. One of my best friends is a Mac user! It does what he wants it to do. I use WinXP at work, and W2K at home - they both perform reasonably well, but W2K is slightly better IMHO.
If I was to get a Mac, I would need a web server that could run ASP, PHP, and JSP, a weblogic server, Photoshop, and Half Life 2. AFAIK, Photoshop is the only 'yes' answer on that list.
posted by
Greg at April 7, 2005 08:37 PM
Oh, and hi Shawn.. nice to meet you!
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Greg at April 7, 2005 08:37 PM
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Toxicity
"If Allen were to do something like that on a case you'd handled, you'd probably go over and kick his butt."
That statement just shows how little my managers know me. So, I shook my head, "No," I said; "I never get upset with anyone who errs on the side of customer satisfaction. I only get angry with people who abuse the customers, or who obstruct issue resolution."
The context is this: a customer was in a situation in which he had come to believe that our hardware is the source of the issue. He was two and a half hours away from that hardware, and so, cannot easily troubleshoot. Sure, he'd been onsite for the initial troubleshooting phase, and felt confident that he had tracked the issue source to my product. He couldn't say exactly what the problem was, but he was sure he had it nailed down, and it was hard for him to get to the site. The network is in production, and his own end-user has some pretty clear service expectations.
The first agent who took the case was justified in saying, "It may not be hardware. I believe you, but what if we can resolve this with a simple firmware upgrade? I'd really like to troubleshoot further before we replace hardware."
Unfortunately, the customer doesn't have remote access to the equipment. When he pressed, stressing his unique restrictions, I believe that the first agent should have relented. The agent did not, so the customer ended the call, and got in touch with his sales representative. This person conferenced him in with us, and the second agent was somewhat less helpful; absolutely refusing to replace hardware without troubleshooting.
Yes, I can see where my colleague was coming from. Sometimes, issues that present as hardware failure are easily resolved with a simple firmware upgrade, or by fine-tuning a feature.
So, when the customer called back a third time, and got to me, I could hear the desperation leaking into his voice. He was 2.5 hours from the equipment, he had no spare stock on hand for testing, and he did not want to show up onsite without hardware, just in case that was the problem -- doing so would have resulted in more lost productivity for the end-user; not to mention unbelievable driving time for this person, who is located in one of the worst areas of the East Coast for long drives.
I could absolutely see where he was coming from. He needed someone to be flexible under the circumstances. So, after stressing to him that the warranty statement does indeed have a troubleshooting caveat, and that he will be expected to work with us in the future, I agreed to ship him some replacement hardware. He agreed to ship the switch back to us if it turns out that the source of the issue rests elsewhere.
There's more to this story -- at the time I took the call, the second agent had not updated the case notes. So, I had nothing to go on. I had no idea that he had spoken to supervisors and service parts resources regarding this case. What's more, none of these people were at their desks when I went by in an effort to talk to someone about it. So, I did what an adult is supposed to do: I made a decision.
I let everyone involved know what I had done. The other particulars in my office are upset with me. According to some, I undermined the agents who handled the case before me, and I taught the customer that he can call in and "cherry pick" agents to get service. That's when one of my supervisors made the statement that started this post, and that's when I stood up for myself.
I thought that I was hired to do customer service, you see. I thought that part of this job entailed employing something called discernment.
I guess I was wrong.
Whenever your immediate supervisors express distrust in your ability to make a decision, it's time to get out.
I'm working on that. My resume is on monster.com. I have a friend whose wife would like to personally deliver my resume to her HR department. There are options, and I have my hook baited. I'm just waiting on a bite.
In the meantime, how about a little discussion? Y'all put yourselves in the customer's shoes, and tell me what should have happened. Then pretend that you were me, and tell me what you would have decided to do. Sure, it's a bald appeal for validation, but I still think I made the right decision. What do you think?
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Leave indeed. Unless your boss, in chastising you, recommended a prefered solution, boss no good. Until you leave, you may want to bounce the hard ones upstairs and ask to watch while boss resolves problem. Some companies will flip off customers right into bankruptcy.
posted by
Walter E. Wallis at October 26, 2004 02:34 AM
A friend in IT related this story to me about our rather mercurial CEO. A server went down. A server that ran a main component of our "Enterprise" software. The part needed to fix said server was out of stock. He was told if the server was not up by noon the following day not to come the work the day after.
Several calls up the support food chain he got someone who took action. This guy pulled a part from a server in their office and delivered it personally.
He did the right thing. as did my friend who kept looking for a solution
posted by
Stephen Macklin at October 26, 2004 02:55 AM
In the heady days of my retail experience, I was taught one very important lesson... the customer is always right... especially if you want repeat business. It shouldn't have taken three phone calls to get a satisfactory resolution to the problem. You did the right thing, and your bosses should know that... and also have a little discussion with the other two that failed to provide a resolution.
It's amazing to notice the difference between what corporate mentality labels as good customer service, compared to retail. Go you sister, and get the hell out of there. :D Best wishes always
posted by
Ethne at October 26, 2004 04:33 PM
...and if they didn't think enough of you to get a non-compete, ...
posted by
Walter E. Wallis at October 26, 2004 04:59 PM
I've been in all three places - customer, customer service rep, boss. As boss, I'd have a talk with the folks about flexibility and updating their logs. I'd also acknowlege the fact that some customers *do* cherry pick and such until they get their way. That's part of what customer service is for, trying to figure out what's *really* going on.
posted by
Ted at October 26, 2004 05:36 PM
-- at the time I took the call, the second agent had not updated the case notes.
You've eviscerated the second agent, right?
(What? Did I reveal a peeve of mine? Sorry.) ;)
I don't see a problem in what you did.
posted by
Patrick Chester at October 26, 2004 06:41 PM
Linda. You just keep on doing what you do and you will go far in your persuit of happiness.
A former boss of mine (JB) once said, "Make the right decision for the customer now and beg for forgiveness later."
Unfortunately, as time passes, management begins to focus on the bottom dollar as opposed to the top priority, customers. Believe me, if you were exposed to Headquarters as I am day in and day out, you would have been praised for your actions, because it was done for the sake of the customer. (The guys who end up funding our paychecks.) There is a huge advantage of having two managers working down in the the pits with their employess as opposed to managers (like yours) who try to do the same thing, but have more-pressing budget issues to overanalyze. The results always seem to come down to shallow, uninformed response on what you should have done.
On behalf of Headquarters, I would like to send you a big thank you. And... You're forgiven. :-)
posted by
The Nerdy Conservative at October 26, 2004 09:51 PM
I'm late to this party, but I do have some thoughts:
Make a token effort to improve the processes and culture before you move on. Introduce the idea (or reinforce it, if it's already present) of "first call resolution." Definitely reinforce the need for your cow-orkers to follow existing processes re: updating case notes. Suggest that people be reachable when they're away from their desks. Possibly suggest re-negotiating process entrance criteria (are you familiar with the Deming Workbench?).
If attempts to improve the environment get nowhere, then leave. I don't like that "undermining" meme that's floating around, but maybe they're not hopeless after all.
And, oh, yeah, you definitely did the right thing.
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Jay Manifold at November 5, 2004 01:15 AM
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Elegant Innovation
HP may want to be associated with the word, "Invent", but I salute a manufacturer innovative enough to marry technology to aesthetics:
Apple's new G5 iMac.
Beautiful.
May it be wildly successful.
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But... Where's the computer? They forgot to include the computer!
Actually, I'm impressed that they managed to pack a G5 into something that small. Wonder how they cool it?
posted by
Pixy Misa at September 1, 2004 11:17 AM
How do they cool it? Simple answer...physics. Cold air is drawn in by a couple of fans through the speaker grills on the bottom, and then rises through a slit in the top of the case. I counted two fans in the pictures, that are supposed to be whisper quiet at top speed. It's a beautiful thing, and hopefully the turbinesque noise of the G4 era is nothing but an ear-ringing memory.
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galstaff at September 1, 2004 04:14 PM
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*SMACK*
I deserve whatever ribbing I get from this confession. In fact, I think dear Pixy might get the biggest laugh out of this.
Stand back children, and remember that I'm a professional:
You can't route on-subnet. You just can't.
I just spent an hour trying.
It was beautifully subnetted. Three VLANs! Static routes! A drawn topology, doncha know!
My private networks were going through the firewall, getting NAT'ed, and going out to the gateway. I was hitting the internet. It was beautiful.
But the VLAN with the public address, which had a corresponding interface on the firewall, and then another on the gateway router wasn't going anywhere.
I actually spent time troubleshooting this.
Then another engineer walked up, "Emperor, meet nudie beach."
I'm hiding in my pod, now.
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They're so cute when they talk tech
Seems that the UN wants a piece of the Internet pie.
Check out Kofi Annan's utterly newbie statement: "[Internet standards] must be made accessible and responsive to the needs of all the world's people."
Um, Kofi? They are. The standards, as you put them, are not geography-specific. Operating systems are written in dozens of different languages. All you have to do is put a hardware infrastructure in place, study LAN/WAN networking with classes and textbooks written in your language, deploy your clients/servers/routers/firewalls ad nauseum, and golly-gee-whiz(!) you have an internet. (Don't quibble, dear readers -- oversimplification, I know.)
For me, it just further underscores how little the UN knows about anything.
Why are we still allotting them space on our soil?
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Burn the bastards down and sent to Brussles!
posted by
Madfish Willie at March 26, 2004 06:22 PM
And you can get all the software for free. And most of the hardware too. Anyone want a PII-300?
posted by
Pixy Misa at March 26, 2004 06:52 PM
Yes, but the UN doesn't have exclusive control over it so it isn't "accessible and responsive to the needs of all the world's people."
Or at least I think that's why Kofi was saying that. It's possible he already knows what you've pointed out but is loudly proclaiming what he said as an excuse for more stricter controls on the Internet. Can't have people in dictatorships getting the Wrong Information about their Benevolent Government, after all. :-P
posted by
Patrick Chester at March 26, 2004 09:56 PM
No doubt, Patrick! :)
I think you hit the nail on the head with that one.
posted by
Linda at March 26, 2004 11:00 PM
The UN doesn't give a rat's patootie about censorship or even the concept, they want to get their hands on what they think is a cash cow.
They will soon learn the term: burn rate.
posted by
feste at March 27, 2004 12:34 AM
I think the day the U.N. Takes over the internet will also witness one of largest DOS attacks in history.
posted by
Stephen Macklin at March 27, 2004 12:44 AM
I think you're right too, Stephen. At that point, I think I'd just log off the phones and head home for a week or so. :)
BTW, Mr. Batender, just where have you been lately? I need scotch!!!
posted by
Linda at March 30, 2004 12:13 AM
Why are we still allotting them space on our soil?
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zoppini at May 27, 2004 10:24 AM
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SCO Ordered to Produce Examples of Code (Again)
Repeating the order she issued in December, Magistrate Judge Brooke Wells has directed SCO to provide specific examples of the allegedly heisted code.
She is requiring IBM to provide certain pieces of documentation, as well. (See the linked article for all the details.)
In light of the legal brouhaha, it was only a matter of time before some enterprising soul launched a start-up to shield LINUX users who prefer to monkey with streamline the software to fit their particular deployment.
HP was the first to offer LINUX users protection, with companies like Novell and Red Hat quickly following suit, but many people in the LINUX community felt that the indemnification wasn't enough, because those companies require that users make no edits to the software. Open Source Risk Management seems to be doing it properly by providing consultation and insurance to the core LINUX demographic.
Their mission statement is certainly idealistic enough:
OSRM's vision is of a world "made safe for Open Source" - a world in which the unique freedoms and efficiencies of the Open Source Software Development Model are fully protected through comprehensive, low-cost vendor-neutral Open Source Insurance available to end-users, developers, and vendors.
I hope OSRM knows success beyond their wildest dreams. I really do.
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I've gotten bored with the SCO nonsense. Wake me up when criminal charges are pressed against Darl.
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Pixy Misa at March 19, 2004 01:13 PM
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The Folly: SCO to File LINUX Lawsuit Today
ZDNet has the latest.
Despite an ongoing battle of documentation between Novell and SCO, McBride and his organization have yet to provide examples of the allegedly stolen code.
Now SCO has expanded their lawsuit to include another company. McBride declines to name who it is, but he hints that the company has had licensing agreements with SCO in the past.
That could be any number of different people. There are several manufacturers out there who have given their customers the option of a SCO bundle for their servers. Lots of those companies have also offered LINUX, as well as Novell and Windows. (I have a guess as to who SCO may be targeting, but I'll hold my peace until further events unfold.)
As someone actively working in the industry, I say that this case still smacks more of sour grapes than anything else. SCO sees its end looming with the growth of stable, user-friendly open source platforms. These lawsuits are the desperate thrashings of a company drowning in its own inefficiency.
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And EV1 (formerly Rackshack) has decided to pay the extortionists. Idiots.
I'm glad I didn't go there for the new MuNu server.
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Pixy Misa at March 2, 2004 09:54 PM
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